Thursday 25 February 2016

Patch Notes 0.13 *dis vehicle balancing FailFish*

 Introduction

So finally they released some patchnotes for the first big patch this year. Let us have a look on what they did change and if they finally step up their balancing regarding vehicles. Below here is the overall summary out of the patch notes, also i deleted some of the PvE stuff, since i don't care about the fixed maps, unless i have played them again. (Theory vs Practical use)

Basically this update is about the new dealer which adds Chinese Tanks and the new MM 2.0, whom i waited long enough . I just hope that the MM 2.0 delivers , otherwise i don't see me playing this game in future. As for the dealer, well i will try them, but from what i have read, those tanks are most likely boosted to fit tiers again, which make them rather bad, but we'll see.

Update 0.13 does bring several major features that include:


  • Third Dealer Zhang Feng with 7 new Chinese MBTs
  • New Coastal Threat PvP map
  • PvE and PvP Reward System overhaul
  • PvE Consumable Cost Changes
  • PvE Artillery Changes
  • Matchmaker 2.0
New Features


Third Dealer Zhang Feng with 7 new Chinese MBTs

  • Type 59 (Tier 3)
  • Type 69-II (Tier 4)
  • Type 80-II (Tier 5)
  • Type 85-IIM (Tier 6)
  • Type 90-II (Tier 7)
  • Type 98 (Tier 8)
  • WZ-1224 (Tier 5 Premium)



Coastal Threat Map

Coastal Threat spans 1200 x 1200 meters in size and is roughly comprised of one third urban areas intermixed with rolling terrain. While designed to offer players several different sections for head on engagements, Coastal Threat primarily focuses on mixed movement - enabling players to find plenty of routes to flank enemies or set up ambushes. More details can be found in our preview.


Conclusion


I played this map during the Alpha and by the looks of it right now, they replaced an accessable area with a great lake in the middle. Although i didn't played this map ever since, but replacing an area which was part of the map, with an area which you can't enter, aka "deadspace" is not that good actually. The bad performance was mostly due the countless objects you put on load for the GPU and replacing it with a lake or an area which you can't access ain't the way to do it, but we'll on how the map will be played now.
I just think that this is another MBT map, just from the looks, and this is what we don't need at the moment.

PvE and PvP Reward System Overhaul



In the previous rewards system, PvE had lower Gross credit earnings than PvP, but had virtually no costs (aside from consumables). While the net results for average matches were similar for players with average performance and no boosts, high performers and players with Premium Accounts or other multipliers didn't have an opportunity to shine.


We considered several options for addressing this, but ultimately, we decided that PvE needed to function more similarly to PvP in order for the systems to be equitable. We considered reintroducing ammo and repair costs, but those didn't scale properly for PvE maps. Instead, we've introduced a new cost - "Logistics Costs" - for PvE missions on Medium or higher difficulty, and vastly increased Gross rewards. This will make Medium or higher rewards more performance dependent, as well as benefit more from any kind of multipliers (such as Premium Accounts and Premium Tanks).


Conclusion

While i agree that PvE needs to be a valid choice, i don't think that raising the income to pvp levels is the way to go. As for example you can farm missions in EVE Online in a 0.9 sec, fairly safe but on a low income base, while doing missions in the deadspace in a -0.5 space rewards you with more income, due the higher risks.
Although this is different than AW PVE, i think that PvE needs either a really high chance to not have success in the higher levels and difficulties than you have in lower difficulty. If we start to give them a similar amount of money for a guaranteed win, this ain't the way to go. This doesn't mean that PvE is worse, but it is by far easier to have a high winrate or successrate than PvP, and therefore it shouldn't have a similar reward at all.


PvE Artillery Changes



AI-controlled artillery was changed to reduce the focus on a single player. More details are available in detailed patchnotes below.

Wow, that they even used this as a valid tactic for the AI is kinda bad. It is one of the worst mechanics you could add in that mode, especially when you are not playing a Brickwall vehicle .


Matchmaker 2.0



We've updated our matchmaking system to provide an overall better experience to players looking for more balanced matches. Previously, players would often find themselves placed against full platoons in higher-tiered vehicles without an equal number of equivalently tiered vehicles on their team.


Platoons will now be matched against equally tiered platoons or players who match the top tier in the platoon. For example, a platoon of 3 tier 8s can only get into a match if the match has three other tier 8s (platooned or not). Artillery is also more strictly matched so their tiers are balanced between the teams. While this means platoons will sometimes have to wait longer for a match, solo-queue players should now find themselves in matches with other similarly-tiered players and a balanced number of platoons.Additionally, solo-queue players should also find it easier to get into a match, even at higher tiers.


Finally, the introduction of Matchmaker 2.0 also brings with it new server-side controls which allow us to more easily tweak the matchmaking settings based on individual region needs.


Conclusion


So i hope for them that these changes are not all changes regarding the MM, otherwise they really need to hire some guys that have some skills in their own game and some sense for solo queue players. I agree that the platoon stuff needs to be done and hopefully this is working out, but if this MM 2.0 is as punishing as the previous MM to higher skilled solo queue players, than this game won't attract solo players, since your game punishes them for being good.
Just saying that i have no problem with a challenge, but having always the worse out of the worst players isn't entertaining, nor can i play vehicles that don't have high carry capabilities, because i would lose in those more often due your MM. However i will check closely if they done their job or not, otherwise i will drop the game most likely.

List of 0.13.1881 Changes


Gameplay Mechanisms

Retrofit and Commander Changes

The commander Freya Højbjerg can now also be unlocked on the BMD-1 and the commander Juan Carlos Miramon can now also be unlocked on the Swingfire. We've added a new retrofit called 'Reinforced Wheels'. As its name suggests, Reinforced Wheels improves the durability of your vehicle's wheels and treads by adding additional hit points to the module. The Reinforced Wheels Retrofits are unlocked on the following vehicles:

  • Mk.1 is given out automatically to all players
  • Type 69-II (Mk.2)
  • Type 90-II (Mk.3) 
Conclusion

It would make sense to have this retrofit, if you feel the difference with a "red" wheel and a "yellow" wheel or a non damaged wheel, but currently you barely feel any difference i would say. And even then, you just stop and repair them to "yellow" and have no drawbacks. You might need to check your balance department here


Component & Crew Damage Adjustments




  • Reducing saved component damage percentage from 50% to 30%. However, components will now take less damage if their saving throws succeed
  • Saving throws have gone up for all components. All components got a 5% increase except for crew and gas tanks, which got a 10% increase. It will be harder to deal maximum damage to these components
  • Hit points have been slightly increased for all components, except for treads, which now take 2 critical hit shots to destroy
  • Repair speed has been increased for tracks and engines. Tracks now repair in 6 seconds, engines in 7 seconds
  • Destroying an external gas tank now has a 35% chance to start a fire on the vehicle
  • Destroying an external gas tank now also causes a 5% penalty to vehicle traverse speed
  • While the external gas tank is in the destroyed state, there is a 15% greater chance the engine could catch fire if it is shot
  • Fire damage to internal components has been slightly decreased. Fewer components should now enter the damaged state after a fire starts
Conclusion



So in short you get less module damage, but can easier track people, while catching a fire lowers your mobility, but you have an increased repair speed. I think those are important changes and we'll see on how these develop and change the gameplay for some tanks. Low mobility tanks will suffer most from this i would say, especially if you can set them on fire fairly easy.

Vehicles

Armor Rebalance


In order to improve the reward for successfully flanking enemy main battle tanks from behind, a global armor adjustment has been done on all MBTs from Tier 2 to Tier 9. This results in an effective reduction of roughly 20% armor protection on the rear portion of the hull from Tiers 2 through 6 and 40% for Tiers 7 to 9. The nominal values for tank armor will not be changing, only the composition of the steel.
This change is primarily benefits automatic cannons; there should no longer be cases of MBTs being completely impervious to damage regardless of where they are shot - attacking from directly behind should always result in penetration. Behavior amongst TDs, MBTS and LTs should be unaffected. This is the beginning of a broader iteration to normalize MBT weak points, with MBT side armor being the next portion to be evaluated on a vehicle by vehicle basis.




Conclusion


Okay, i think that reducing the rear- and sidearmor of MBT's is a good step forward, but i think it would make more sense to introduce MBT's with their estimated real life armor values for the side and the rear. This would mean that either most MBT's have to be nerfed to do so or some are even below their real life values, which shouldn't be the case i would assume.
Regarding the nerf itself, i think this will hit mostly the MBTs that had great side armor anyways, while the MBT's with a low amount of sidearmors won't get hit by the nerfbat as hard as previous mentioned tanks. My concern would be, if the tanks that lost a lot with this nerf, get something else in return or on how much they will drop in performance.

BMP-1P



The BMP-1P wasn't as clear of an upgrade over the original BMP-1. As such, we've given it several firepower improvements:

  • HE damage increased by 10%
  • Rate of Fire with all standard rounds increased by 10%
  • Rate of Fire with ATGMs increased by 20%
  • Aim-time decreased from 2.8 seconds to 2.6 
How is it with just replacing the BMP-1 on tier 3 with this one ? It would make sense and has a lot of potentitial upgrades then, with some different paths as well, but instead they are buffing the firepower even more. Firepower is not the only stat which you can balance, sometimes a vehicle just doesn't fit the tier.

BMP-2



While the BMP-2 isn't suffering quite as much as the BMP-3 and BMP-3M (see below), it's still performing somewhat below standards, and we're giving it some minor improvements that are appropriate for the theme of the line.

  • Autocannon clip reload time decreased from 7.5 seconds to 6.5 seconds
  • ATGM reload time decreased from 16 seconds to 14.29 seconds
It is basically not easy to play, because the lack of gundepression and the restriction with the ATGM launcher. Though i don't know exactly on how the external launcher works, but iam pretty sure that you can move it up and down a bit, and this should be introduced as well, since your own positioning restricts the usage of ATGMs right now.

BMP-3



The BMP-3 has always been more of a brawler/skirmisher than most AFVs, but it's lacked the efficiency to make that style as viable as it should be. We've made a broad range of improvements focused on increasing its close combat effectiveness.

  • 100mm gun damage increased from 314 to 329
  • 30mm stock AP damage increased from 68 to 75
  • 30mm upgraded AP damage increased from 72 to 78
  • 30mm stock HE damage increased from 51 to 56
  • 30mm upgraded HE damage increased from 54 to 59
  • Stock ATGM damage increased from 597 to 653
  • Upgraded ATGM damage increased from 656 to 686
  • Autocannon clip reload time decreased from 7.5 seconds to 6.5 seconds
  • 100mm gun peak accuracy improved from 0.136 to 0.125
  • 30mm gun peak accuracy improved from 0.1466 to 0.125
  • ATGM reload time decreased from 13.33 seconds to 11.25 seconds
If you want a "brawler or skirmisher" you need to be able to succesful kite your way in and out, and now tell me if buffing the firepower helps you with brawl or skirmish better ? Whatever those guys are smoking, smoke less please. If you want the BMP-3 to be a brawler you need to buff its survivability, which means hitpoints, a good mobility and the right options for armor kits to survive autocannons of the same tier up front. 
That is how a brawler should be and you describe in your patchnotes something which the BMP-3 will never be unless you make said changes and not just buff its firepower. This just shows that you don't know anything about giving vehicles or a class a identity while buffing something completely different.

BMP-3M



Similar to the BMP-3, we've made some improvements to the BMP-3M to increase its brawling prowess.


  • 100mm gun damage increased from 378 to 401
  • 30mm stock AP damage increased from 88 to 90
  • 30mm upgraded AP damage increased from 92 to 95
  • 30mm stock HE damage increased from 66 to 68
  • 30mm first upgrade damage increased from 69 to 71
  • 30mm second upgrade damage increased from 71 to 73
  • Stock ATGM damage increased from 686 to 751
  • Autocannon clip reload time decreased from 7.5 seconds to 6.5 seconds
  • Upgraded ATGM damage increased from 755 to 789
  • Autocannon clip reload time decreased from 7.5 seconds to 6.5 seconds
  • 100mm gun peak accuracy improved from 0.129 to 0.12
  • 30mm gun peak accuracy improved from 0.139 to 0.12
  • ATGM reload time decreased from 11.76 seconds to 11.11 seconds
Same as above, but the BMP-3M should be more another version on tier 6 or an upgrade for the BMP-3. Increasing the firepower for every AFV that "underperforms" will snowball into something really bad. Tiering is important and while we are on this again, YOU need to step this up, unless you want to buff every AFV after some time with some more firepower to make it on par with same tiered vehicles.

This just doesn't cut it.

LAV-300



The LAV-300 is in a pretty good place, but it needs some minor improvements to increase its reliability and ease of use. We've increased its camo factor slightly to make it easier to stay concealed and provide synergy with the Tank Destroyer class ability, as well as given it some minor improvements to gun performance.


  • Camo factor improved from 0.25 to 0.28
  • Targeting Time decreased from 3.3 seconds to 3 seconds
  • Peak accuracy improved from 0.136 to 0.12
  • Hit Points increased from 1095 to 1205
A minor improvement would be a buff to gundepression, as this would help the vehicle more than anything else, next to a better upgradetree , regarding the AP shell at the end.

LAV-600



Similar to the LAV-300, the LAV-600 is performing just below average on most statistics. We're giving it a number of minor improvements similar to the ones we're giving the LAV-300, which we feel will help make it easier to use and more fun to play.

  • Camo factor improved from 0.25 to 0.28
  • Targeting Time decreased from 3 seconds to 2.7 seconds
  • Peak accuracy improved from 0.099 to 0.09
  • Hit Points increased from 1660 to 1830
Exactly what we need. A tiny bit of camo bonus and hitpoints, since we want to give the enemy the chance to farm more juicy free HP. In all seriousness , buffing the HP and the already worse Camo won't make it better when people have problem to point their gun down, due the lack of gundepression. The Peakaccuracy and aimtime might be a good change, but lets check on my current stats with it. I have like 2.2 seconds of aimtime with a lvl 3 or 4 crew, a booster and crew intercoms. Will the aimtime reduction help me ? Well i still have shitty gundepression, penetration and mediocre camo.

For real OE, people ask for GUNDEPRESSION and penetration or if you don't want to change the latter one, CHANGE THE RETROFITSLOTS. Why do i have to use a armor retrofit on a TD ?

T-64


We've improved the accuracy of the T-64 to be closer to the accuracy of an upgraded T-62

  • Peak accuracy improved from 0.164 to 0.148
Uhm why ?


Player versus Player

  • Designers have done a pass on the following maps to fix minor audio, terrain, camera, and map asset issues: Pipelines, Reactor, River Point, Lost Island
  • Designers have done a global shadow & vegetation pass for consistency and optimization
  • Platoon members will now spawn near each other on all PvP maps


Lost Island



  • Designers have completed an optimization pass to reduce the performance impact of Lost Island's vegetation when set to low
Just remove this crap map finally

Narrows


  • Fixed an issue where capture circles and flares would be the incorrect color after reconnecting to the match
Just remove this crap map finally (it does look fine, but mapdesign is so limited)

River Point


  • Fixed an issue where the vehicle range finder was intermittently disappearing
  • Fixed an issue at G5 where players were unable to shoot between the building and destroyed airplane wing
Just remove this crap map finally (map rewards base camping, is never a good design)

Pipelines


  • Added cover for the North team in order for them to counter the F0/G0 spots
  • Adjusted the potential spotting areas on the hill at C6/C7 that allowed players from the north to quickly spot players exiting their spawn from the south
  • Added spots of cover to prevent the North team from spotting the South team as they head from the spawn area to the refinery area
  • Reduced the amount of cover available to the South team at H8/H9 in order to make it on-par with the North team's equivalent cover
Lets see on how these changes are working out, as i doubt it will help, but i need to play it first


PvE Artillery Adjustments


Reduced the desire for AI Artillery to fixate on just one target during a match. Previously, up to three Artillery were allowed to target a single player. This has been changed to two on hard. On easy/medium, only 1 arty should target a player at once. The only exception to this is if a player gets within 150m of an AI Artillery. Doing so will cause it to "panic" and have an increased chance to fire at the nearby player. Artillery that are panicked do not count towards the maximum number of Artillery allowed to fire at one target. AI Artillery will also still favor player Artillery greatly, but they will not fixate on it to the exclusion of other players. Further Artillery PvE changes:

  • Changed the priority weights on SPG AI to encourage it to change targets if it can't see a particular enemy
  • Moved Artillery Line-of-Sight checks to the LoS manager and added the current LoS to the SPG targeting logic
  • AI will now attempt to target weak points starting with only MBTs on medium
  • Added Commander Sight and Gunner Sight as weak points for AI Artillery to target
  • Fixed an issue where visibility wasn't being tracked properly for counter-battery targets
  • Modified how turret yaw and pitch affected enemy AI spread values to make the AI less accurate while aiming at a moving target
  • Fixed an issue with AI Artillery not waiting until it was properly aimed at a target before firing
  • Fixed an issue where AI would fire when their target was directly behind the AI's turret
  • Fixed an issue where AI would potentially shoot before they were aimed directly at a target
  • Fixed an issue that would sometimes cause AI not to fire if it was attempting to target weak points too far away from the center of its target vehicle
  • Cleaned up AI weak point targeting code
Sounds like a spaghetti code.


Overall Conclusion


While they fixed a lot and introduced some new stuff, which is absolutely okay and good, i don't think that they understand on what balancing means regarding the vehicles in this game. I will repeat myself again, as this seem to be the biggest struggle for them, tiering is very important and balancing in the right areas of a vehicle is the major part to have a successful techtree. 
Having statistics and understanding those are two different things, and going full fiction mode or balance the game for the worst players won't do it.

4 comments:

  1. So fucking true...RIP AW :(

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  2. Pve arty is still broken and still relentlessly focuses you down no matter what.

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    1. It is a stupid mechanic in general and a pretty annoying one as well. They really need to step up their quality for each patch in the future, otherwise they will lose players this way. Sad to see it actually

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  3. Pve arty is still broken and still relentlessly focuses you down no matter what.

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